I see he has better scrap load and lateral tilt even though it looks like a bit of.a side tilt. His shoulders stay sideways longer. Another thing I noticed is how much his bat revolves around his body and hands and how much you use your body to make the barrel go around your body, if that makes sense.
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Originally posted by jsoriano View PostBeen using this exercise with some success recently helping kid make sense of turning the barrel...from tipped position I tell them to snap the barrel back, under, and out towards 2Bman...just started using the 'towards the 2Bman cue...this kid not doing it
From this I then tell them to move hands in front of back shoulder and do the same thing they are doing above...without tip or not as big of a tip
Then I get them in a wide stance and have them coil and again start hands in front of back shoulder but then pull scap back then do what they are doing in exercise above
Then we add a stride...
This kid is doing the exercise above with the snap barrel back, under, and out towards 2bman cue....then doing the wide stance/ coil /no stride /just pull scap back&turn it off tee
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Oppo launch direction was something that i had been missing. I finally felt the rear hip grab and whip my barrel through today.
I think i am lacking some tilt. In slow motion my swing seems to look a little “out front” - if that is the correct way of describing it.Last edited by matthewerwin00; 06-26-2018, 04:08 PM.
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Originally posted by Teacherman View PostHere are a couple of videos I made last December to show how to get a good deep rear hip load without losing two eye contact with the pitcher.
Each video starts with counter rotation of the shoulders by way of waist separation. There is no good coil feel until I get turned too far.
Then, I show what happens when you stick the butt out and arch the back and then coil or pull yourself on around by way of the lower back, not the shoulders. The good load feel happens long before you could lose two eye contact.
Use Your Back To Coil Side
Use Your Back To Coil Front
You can barely see anything, but it is quite significant, and, I think you can see enough that you can get out of your chair and attempt it and create the feel immediately. In both the good demo and the bad....I reach a quality load feeling. But the amount of movement is far less in the good attempt. With the main difference being the butt out and back arch.
When I stick my butt out and arch my back (using back extensor muscles)and then coil the hip socket around the ball of the femur, I reach the hip socket range of motion limit. Then, I pull the back around as far as it will go using lower back muscles, which isn't much further but I can feel it get tighter. I should say, whatever muscles I use, it creates a stretch feeling in the rear arch of the lower back as I attempt to pull rearward more. It is that rearward movement, or attempt at movement, that I am speaking of when I say it is constant and increasing. Right in the rear lower back. It is that feeling of stretch that creates the spring.
Here is an interesting piece of physics. You will not spring forward unless your back is pulling rearward. It is the back pulling rearward that the leg works against. The harder your back pulls rearward the harder the leg works to counter it. That is why it must be constant and increasing.
When you turn your barrel rearward 'into' that load....not forward 'away from' or 'out of' the load....you get a very sudden SnF launch.
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Usually when I am off it is because I am using arms/shoulders to power swing. I am not for sure if the root of the problem is because my rear leg load isn't right (which would mean I am forced to produce power with arms) or if i am simply just not launching 'into' the load and allowing rear leg to pull.
edit: I was not turning the barrel. I was using arms and shoulders to pull the knob across instead and rear leg can’t pull with shoulders rotating.Last edited by matthewerwin00; 06-26-2018, 04:09 PM.
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06/24/2018
So, in my last swing clip i talked about feeling the rear hip grab whip my barrel through. Well, tonight i didn’t seem like i could find that feeling. In my last post above i talked about not knowing the root of the issue. It seemed like i could just never find that autopilot feeling.
notice:Originally posted by Mike View PostI thought 2 legged too, because the way your hips were twisting and the shoulder rotation. Pulling along the barrel requires excessive shoulder rotation and it seemed to be more than normal.Last edited by matthewerwin00; 06-26-2018, 02:35 PM.
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I quit dumping the barrel rearward because i was popping up. My rear leg wasn’t pulling and barrel was never getting whipped around. At the end, (the videos i posted were at the end of my session) i wasn’t snapping barrel rearward anymore because i didn’t want to pop up so i started pushing forward and applying force into the ball.
The root of the problem is i am 2 legged because my rear leg load wasn’t right.Last edited by matthewerwin00; 08-14-2018, 06:52 PM.
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I thought 2 legged too, because the way your hips were twisting and the shoulder rotation. Pulling along the barrel requires excessive shoulder rotation and it seemed to be more than normal. What I couldn't tell was a weighted or pushing back front foot. I didn't have the confidence to say it. All part of the learning process for all of us. Great job Matt, the fight continues.
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06/27/2018
Felt good tonight. Trying to get around rear leg more here
edit: rear leg load still doesn't look right hereLast edited by matthewerwin00; 08-14-2018, 06:53 PM.
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