What Does Separation Look Like?

[Teacherman]

Let me clarify......the separation can be 'seen'.....by watching the hands versus the rear knee.

I don't think the rear knee is doing the work though.

[Pronk]

Let me clarify......the separation can be 'seen'.....by watching the hands versus the rear knee.

I don't think the rear knee is doing the work though.

Agreed. I look at the knee as an indicator that the hip is turning.

[tom.guerry]

pivot seems to be hip socket/head of femur

[Bucketdad]

That was not even on my radar.
I'm still a little confused, but I think I see it more in the Kerns clip than the others. Looking forward to your video.

BD

[Teacherman]

With Bonds and Pujols the 'old' standard of hip line versus shoulder line is real clear. You can easily look at them and 'see' separation.

However, with Manny, and Arod, and Ryan Howard....others.....those with the more pronounced 'up and back' loading of their rear arm....they still separate but they don't achieve the same 'look'. Their hip line v shoulder line is not as pronounced. Mainly because they load differently.....in a different direction.....more up and back as compared to around.....and therefore they swing in a steeper diagonal plane than Bonds and Pujols.

All I'm stating is there is a better visual to 'see' the separation....that works in all hitters.....and that is the rear knee v the hands or barrel.

[powertoallfields]

I agree..I had the chance to watch Pujols live today...the thing that is most important about his swing is the last bit of sudden stretch he gets,that turns into some incredible powerful whip into the ball. It was awesome to say the least.

Do you think it's because of the speed in which he unloads his back hip? I think Ted Williams figured out that the quick change of direction from load to unload will generate just as much power and gives you a little more time to read. His swing is so simple (the last one he used) and efficient.

[powertoallfields]

Teach,

What muscles and or tendons do you think are being stretched? Some muscles are being used to do the stretching and others are being stretched, correct? Which ones are the most important, IYO? I have learned much from reading you, Bluedog, Tom, Mankin, and Swingbuster. I owe much of that to Mike Epstein, who first put me on the quest for the truth. It's funny, the only reason I bought his tapes in the first place was because I wanted the video of the old Pros, what I found was that there was much more to hitting than I ever could have imagined.

Thanks!

[Teacherman]

The clip I promised is in the 'Trick Question' thread.

[Teacherman]

I was going through some old clips and found this one.

Thought it fit this thread rather well.

[Teacherman]

Another oldie but goodie that fits this thread.



The clip was made to show handle torque and the rearward move of the barrel before shoulder turn.

But.....look at the rear knee. Can't see it because it is already down and in.

Separation between the rear knee and the hands.

[Teacherman]

What happens as Utley raises his hands slightly just before go.

Is that a 'release' of resistance?

[Teacherman]

Hmmmmmm

Rear knee v hands

[Teacherman]

What happens AS his rear elbow reaches it's max load?

[Teacherman]

[Teacherman]

Pujols has several frames of separation before his barrel moves in plane. Rivera has very few. Separation v spin.

PCR says separation 'just happens'. That it's a 'no teach'.

Well...on the right is one of their poster childs. They point to Rivera all the time as someone who is a good example of their teaching.

Hmmmmm

Pujols separates. She does not.

Pretty obvious.