The Rear Hip Ball & Socket Joint

[Teacherman]

If you've been reading lately, I've used "the rear hip ball & socket joint" phrase often.

I believe I'm entering some "Holy Grail" territory.

It is difficult to put into words. I'm still studying/hitting/teaching/learning it.

I can definitely "feel" the move...it's quickness...it's suddenness...it's oneness.

The question is can I explain it.

But, if I post what I think I'm going to post....it will definitely be Holy Grail territory

It involves 'axes' of rotation. It involves the joining of the two engines at "go". It involves making the teaching of what we believe in much easier....much simpler.

I need a little more study time.

But, I am really excited about it.

This clip is a large part of my proof.....if I offer it.

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P.S. This is what I do on bad sports days. Nothing on TV. I stare at hitting clips....see things....emulate things....I look for answers.

What do you do?

[go cardinals]

Can't wait to read it...

[Teacherman]

The above clip on the right is a portion of the full swing clip on the left. It shows the "overlap" of the high level swing.

The overlap is the part of the swing where the rearward turning barrel has gone far enough around it's arc to where it "joins" the forward turning hips. Actually, IMO, the overlap is 'how' the body achieves that. It's kind of easy to see. Not so easy to produce. Unless I'm successful in this lesson.

Is there anyone here that would challenge any of the following statements about the above clip?

1) Chipper's hips are opening.
2) Chipper's shoulders are "holding" while the hips open. (Not counter rotating nor opening)
3) Chipper's barrel is going (has gone) rearward as part of his preswing movement.
4) Chipper's barrel is going rearward while the shoulders are "holding".
5) Chipper's front leg/knee opens as the barrel turns rearward.
6) Chipper achieves separation.
7) Chipper's initial shoulder line at "go" is tilted more than his hip line in the first three or four frames of the partial clip.
8) Chipper's rear hip goes up and forward.
9) Chipper rotates into footplant.
10) Chipper's weight starts back, and goes forward at decision/launch.
11) Chipper's weight remains back even when the front foot comes down, prior to "go".
12) Chipper steps in the bucket slightly.
13) Chipper's barrel continues it's preswing arc into the swing...does not stop it/restart it or redirect it. In other words it just continues around the arc.

I would appreciate participation. I would appreciate your honesty. Don't say yes to appease me. If you don't agree, say so. I'd like to discuss each statement, if need be, before I offer and explain my Holy Grail-like conclusions.

Some of the statements are a little more obvious than others. Let's narrow down to the "grey" area ones....if you think there are some. We will discuss them. I will try to make them "ungrey". And then we will proceed.

If someone can show me any of the above statements are not accurate it will force me to give it up or come from another angle.

While many don't believe this about me....it ain't about me being right. It's about the truth. If it ain't true I want none of it. If you believe something above isn't true sound off.

[go cardinals]

4) Chipper's barrel is going rearward while the shoulders are "holding".

I don't see that. It looks like the back part of the shoulder is moving as the barrel first starts to go rearward. Scaps if you will...

[Teacherman]

How did I define "holding"?

[Teacherman]

I find each of the statements hard to deny.

Does the "lack of participation" mean agreement?

or

Does it mean "STFU....I'm not interested".

Either way is fine by me.

You could be saving my ass.

[Slapper23]

Ok, Rich, I'll bite. Based on your statements or "truths", I see no disagreement...not withstanding the fact that at the present time, I see the value of swinging gate differently than you. Otherwise, great job.

Interested in learning about your "holy grail."

Mike

[Teacherman]

Not asking you to change your stance on anything.

Not trying to trap anyone.

Just asking if you believe those statements are correct.

[Slapper23]

I appreciate where you're coming from and where you're trying to go, Rich. Please don't think I have a closed mind on the validity of swinging gate, because I'm still thinking about it. But for now, we are in 100% agreement on your statements.

Mike

[swingbuilder]

You guys forgive me. Its that time of year and I may have to go for days on end without posting. I read alot on my PDA. I just dont like typing on it so I wait till I can get on line with my computer.

12) Chipper steps in the bucket slightly.

Nope. He may slightly touch the side of the bucket but that foot doesn't get in the bucket even slightly. Lets see a clip of him hitting a ball to left from the left side.

I like "swinging gate" cue. It has value.