Best Drills/Cues for Spinners

[jsoriano]

A lot of kids of all ages spin so I just wanted to ask what you guys think is the best way to attack this. Thanks.

[jsoriano]

Here's what I've been doing...
First I ask them why they spin on their back foot and the ones that have been taught to spin usually say dad or coach told them it's so they get their hips into the swing.

-I tell them to not put in any effort into making the rear foot do anything...to just screw it into the ground and let it react
-I introduce hip coil to them and do some exercises to learn what coiling around feels like
-I'll do that little 3 step exercise to teach them the 'falling over the cliff' feel
-1-legged swings
-Stretch and Fire drill and really emphasizing weight being over the rear leg and unweighting the front leg
-Command Drill
-I've read some old threads about a drill Matt Kata used where the hitter must keep the rear heel down
-I make them try to hit a target that is really high...this helped a 10u kid recently that was shifting her weight to her front leg way too soon btw
-I'll do sequence drills like the feet together drill and I'll tell them to 'leave the back foot behind'

I think that covers majority of what I try so looking for feedback on the above or other things I can try to work this flaw out of a swing. Thanks.

[mikecon]

All good stuff there.

Spinner or not, one of the first revelations we'll discuss that runs contrary to prior learning/habits is:

"RESIST hip rotation."

After that shock and awe, comes discussion about 'bottom of the top' and 'top of the bottom'.

Then discussion about X-factor, dividing line of bottom from top, 'hip-socket separation', overlap, and SnF.

Then it's all about finding the 'feels' that can act on those points. (E.g. SnF Drill)

[jsoriano]

All good stuff there.

Spinner or not, one of the first revelations we'll discuss that runs contrary to prior learning/habits is:

"RESIST hip rotation."

After that shock and awe, comes discussion about 'bottom of the top' and 'top of the bottom'.

Then discussion about X-factor, dividing line of bottom from top, 'hip-socket separation', overlap, and SnF.

Then it's all about finding the 'feels' that can act on those points. (E.g. SnF Drill)

Thanks MC I appreciate it.

[Miko O]

Here's what I've been doing...
First I ask them why they spin on their back foot and the ones that have been taught to spin usually say dad or coach told them it's so they get their hips into the swing.

-I tell them to not put in any effort into making the rear foot do anything...to just screw it into the ground and let it react
-I introduce hip coil to them and do some exercises to learn what coiling around feels like
-I'll do that little 3 step exercise to teach them the 'falling over the cliff' feel
-1-legged swings
-Stretch and Fire drill and really emphasizing weight being over the rear leg and unweighting the front leg
-Command Drill
-I've read some old threads about a drill Matt Kata used where the hitter must keep the rear heel down
-I make them try to hit a target that is really high...this helped a 10u kid recently that was shifting her weight to her front leg way too soon btw
-I'll do sequence drills like the feet together drill and I'll tell them to 'leave the back foot behind'

I think that covers majority of what I try so looking for feedback on the above or other things I can try to work this flaw out of a swing. Thanks.

The 3 step exercise would be helpful it was shared.

[jsoriano]

The 3 step exercise would be helpful it was shared.

Starts around the 30s mark: http://hittingillustrated.com/images/BasicsPart2.mov

[Teacherman]

These clips also show a step by step approach which you can see in action with this college age player.



Pay attention to the details of the movements in each clip. Details are HUGE.

What are the hands doing?
What are the forearms doing?
What is the barrel doing?
What are the elbows doing?
What is the torso doing?
Where does the barrel get up to speed?
What is the torso's relationship to the rear leg?
How does this feel in the rear hip socket?
What is the arms relationship to the torso?
Where is the weight distributed?
When does it shift from rear leg to front?
Are you sure?

How do you verify?

By swinging to duplicate.

To list a few questions to guide your study.

There are more.

[Teacherman]

Can you feel the same movement from this lefty?

[Teacherman]

How about from this guy?



Don't let the slomo at the end fool you.

[jsoriano]

These clips also show a step by step approach which you can see in action with this college age player.



Pay attention to the details of the movements in each clip. Details are HUGE.

What are the hands doing?
What are the forearms doing?
What is the barrel doing?
What are the elbows doing?
What is the torso doing?
Where does the barrel get up to speed?
What is the torso's relationship to the rear leg?
How does this feel in the rear hip socket?
What is the arms relationship to the torso?
Where is the weight distributed?
When does it shift from rear leg to front?
Are you sure?

How do you verify?

By swinging to duplicate.

To list a few questions to guide your study.

There are more.

What are the hands doing? [Turning, rotating.]
What are the forearms doing? [Turning, rotating the hands.]
What is the barrel doing? [Being launched rearward.]
What are the elbows doing? [Front elbow gets rotated up, back elbow gets rotated down.]
What is the torso doing? [Torso is fused turning over the rear leg at the rear hip.]
Where does the barrel get up to speed? [Immediately behind the hitter.]
What is the torsos relationship to the rear leg? [It turns as a unit over the rear leg.]
How does this feel at the rear hip socket? [Falling over the cliff feel.]
What is the arms relationship to the torso? [They are fused to the torso but 'let out' to align barrel to ball depending on pitch location.]
Where is the weight distributed? [Over the rear leg.]
When does it shift from rear leg to front? [When the swing is launched.]

What's my grade?

[Teacherman]

A+

You graduated Summa Cum Laude.